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Justin Robbins
Founder & Principal Analyst
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Are You a Relatable Leader or Just Playing One?

I once sat in a boardroom where an executive proudly declared, “I’m one of them. I started on the frontlines, and I know what they go through every day.” He said it with conviction, nodding to the room as if seeking validation. But when I later walked the contact center floor, speaking with the very associates he claimed to understand, I heard a different story. They felt unseen, unheard, and out of step with leadership. The disconnect was staggering.

Here’s the uncomfortable truth: Many leaders believe they are relatable, but their workforce sees them as out of touch. And that gap is costing businesses more than they realize.

The Illusion of Connection

Executives often tout their origins as frontline employees or insist that an open-door policy keeps them in tune with daily operations. But those origins are decades in the past, and the open door? It’s often just symbolic. While leaders are making high-level strategic decisions, their frontline teams are dealing with the raw reality of customer frustration, system limitations, and policies that don’t reflect the realities of service.

It’s not enough to say you understand the frontline experience—you have to demonstrate it through your actions. When was the last time you:

  • Sat in on customer calls, not as an observer, but as an active participant?
  • Asked your associates what they need, instead of assuming you already know?
  • Followed through on their feedback in a meaningful, visible way?

Too often, leaders want to be perceived as “one of the people” without actually doing the work to stay connected. Employees see through it. And when they do, trust erodes.

Balancing Executive Acumen with Humanity

Great CX leaders don’t just make strategic decisions; they create environments where frontline associates feel valued and supported. Here’s how to bridge the gap:

  1. Ditch the Staged Visits – Walking the floor once a quarter, shaking hands, and giving a pep talk won’t cut it. Build consistent, informal touchpoints that show up in the daily reality of your team.
  2. Listen Beyond the Data – Workforce analytics, survey scores, and dashboards tell part of the story, but qualitative insights from actual conversations with frontline employees will give you context and depth. Numbers without narratives lead to misguided strategies.
  3. Make Their Challenges Your Challenges – If your contact center team is struggling with outdated systems, long handle times, or rigid policies, don’t just acknowledge the problem—own it. Advocate for solutions with the same urgency as you would for a C-suite initiative.
  4. Show, Don’t Just Tell – If you claim that frontline employees are vital to business success, invest in their development. Pay them competitively, equip them with the right tools, and give them career progression paths that don’t feel like a dead end.

The Opportunity We’re Missing

Frontline associates aren’t just employees; they’re brand ambassadors, revenue drivers, and often the most honest pulse check on your business. Yet, too many organizations treat them as cost centers rather than value amplifiers. The leaders who get this—who truly bridge the gap between executive acumen and human connection—aren’t just running successful businesses. They’re building cultures where employees want to stay, customers want to engage, and innovation thrives at every level.

So, ask yourself: Are you genuinely connected to the people driving your customer experience, or are you just playing the part of a relatable leader? Because your team already knows the answer. It’s time you did too.

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Justin Robbins
Founder & Principal Analyst

With more than 20 years of experience, Justin Robbins has helped organizations worldwide strengthen their customer experience strategies, optimize operations, and achieve measurable results.

His expertise spans contact center operations, in-person service delivery, multimodal interaction design, quality assurance, workforce training, and global CX certification standards. Beyond operations, Justin has advised SaaS companies on content strategy, community engagement, customer marketing, and corporate communications.

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